BUG REPORT: Releases shows on LCCN pages after credit is removed

I've made many edits to the CBS Records page correcting the label. CBS Records is the company. But they are all, for about the last week, still on the CBS Records page for the label. See

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/label/19936-CBS-Records?sort=year&sort_order=asc&role=Label

And see items where the edit has gone through to a new label, but still shows on the CBS Records page as a label

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/release/10768479-Metal-Health/history#latest

I am observing the same phenomena on other LCCN pages. Examples:

1) On 22AUG24 (so 7 days ago) I emptied Daisy (13) - Lucifer

2) On 22AUG24 (so 7 days ago), Various - SSDSDSSWEMUGABRTLAD

3) Today 29AUG23, about 40 minutes ago, I moved two releases away from Subterranean Street Society - Twelve Steps

Very annoying bug!

the same here:
i added the new label Aural Records (3)
3 releases are affected - all 3 are still in the old label, but 2 releases show in both labels now
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1084948
made a blank edit at Navrang - Main Bazaar - still not working

Noticed that too. Judging by the last propts I got, about 50% of edited releases dissapear from label page.

This release added to database 11 days ago, B side artist not added
First Born (3) / Vision Sounds - Early In The Morning / Early In The Morning (Version)

FromLondon
This release added to database 11 days ago, B side artist not added
First Born (3) - Early In The Morning

Did a blank edit on this and now Vision Sounds is linked....

A lot of weird things going on right now... functionality vanishes more and more... *sigh*

Issue still on-going: I just removed 4 of the 5 releases from Ska Petarda - Dolce Vita.. *sigh*

I just noticed that the 3 issues I reported on 29AUG24 are now resolved.
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1084831#11214208

However, the issue I reported in the previous entry on 13SEP24 is still valid.
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1084831#11241116

And the root cause is still not resolved, new cases comes up all the time. For example: Yesterday I moved Jerusalemskirken, but it still shows up on the former.

mekon21
3 releases are affected

resolved

FromLondon
This release added to database 11 days ago, B side artist not added
First Born (3) - Early In The Morning

resolved

There's seems to be a time delay of a number of weeks, then most of these issues seem to be resolved.

IbLeo
I just removed 4 of the 5 releases from All Rights Reserved Studio, but all 5 continue to show up.

IbLeo
Yesterday I moved Jerusalemskirken, but it still shows up on the former.

FromLondon
There's seems to be a time delay of a number of weeks, then most of these issues seem to be resolved.

I wonder how many weeks it is? My first example is after 6 weeks still not resolved. My second example is after 3 weeks not resolved either.

FromLondon, I suggest to amend the title of this thread to something like "Bug report: Releases shows on LCCN pages after credit is removed". WDYT?

Yes, I've mostly cleaned up entries that used the company Oriole Records Limited as a label, but they all still show there:

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/label/142275-Oriole-Records-Limited?role=Label

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/release/10814684-Say-You-Do-Call-Her-Your-Sweetheart/history#latest

no change, 23 days later.....

There are thousands of examples stretching back months.

Is a fix in the works Diognes_The_Fox?

soulvibes88
Is a fix in the works Diognes_The_Fox?

Yes.

This bug is discouraging more than one of us:
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1094661?message_id=11340525#11338998

Diognes_The_Fox
Yes.

Great news. Any timeline for a fix?

Same case here:
After this thread SwanTone Studio.
But the releases I have edited are now on both profile pages.

This profile Digfab has now been cleared out following a mass edit but all the releases still appear on the page although it does state there are 0 submissions pending and 0 items for sale.....ho hum.

5 days ago I created a thread about this issue:

Continued database problems: Blank edits still needed to 'push' changes through
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1097085

I did not see this thread when I created mine (since it was off the first page at the time). I had absolutely no idea this issue has been occurring for 3 months now!

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/release/10814684-Say-You-Do-Call-Her-Your-Sweetheart/history#latest

no change, 23 days later.....

37 days and counting..

Same problem here: www.HandleWithCare.de. Problem known for a long time. What happens? Nothing.

One of the most dispiriting bugs in recent years.

There must be tens of thousands of stuck LCCN credits now.

This is still broken, right?
Has discogs gone on permanent vacation?

Diognes_The_Fox When can we expect this mess to be fixed?

senor_velasco
This is still broken, right?
Has discogs gone on permanent vacation?

yes

FromLondon
37 days and counting..

45 days and counting...

Affects many more label pages where edits have been made 1 or 2 weeks ago but releases are still listed under the wrong label pages! Very annoying.
Edit: First I thought it's because of diacritics and blanks after a label name but it's a general bug... sigh.

sebfact
Affects many more label pages where edits have been made 1 or 2 weeks ago but releases are still listed under the wrong label pages!

More like 2 months ago!! On some even more....
See for example: Son Rol Music
It's a crying shame that they can't fix this horrible and unworkable BUG! Not to mention how annoying and time consuming it is to open a release to fix a credit and discover that that error was already fixed months ago! Over and over again....What a charade this Development department of DC!

Danthewhippet
This profile Digfab has now been cleared out following a mass edit but all the releases still appear on the page

curiously, Colors (7) did not !

maybe this bug has something to do with that ?? i mean : maybe there’s a conflict or something in the code, which would be related to the other bug of the drafts the db is displaying, nowadays ?

(a second bug by the way ; this, plus the third which is now displaying the releases twice or more in labels profiles depending how many cat#s were listed in LCCN section, since a few months / years...)

or still, are we in front of an avalanche (each bug would be related to each other), since discogs staff decided to revamp our website as an App for mobile phones (august ‘21), instead ?

if yes, then, can we suggest to discogs developpers to review the entire code they have put in place at the same time of the ‘new’ release pages design / code, still in august ‘21 (i insist !) ?

or, at least (if nothing is working properly like they wished with this new ‘hybrid’ code), could we suggest to them to ask money to their CEO for them to create a true App for mobile phones (s would be able to ), which would be totally independent from the website with the ‘old’ code, as it was 4 years ago (like a kind of back up / revert to the last july ‘21 website code’s revision), or... ??

IbLeo
This bug is discouraging more than one of us:
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1094661?message_id=11340525#11338998

indeed, we refrained this merge proposal with denizen and others, last month, due to this bug :(

dub_e_72
curiously, Digfab has became a draft, whereas (for comparison), the label Colors (7) did not !

I see what you mean. Could it be that digfab is DNU and Colors (7) isn't?

dub_e_72
IbLeo
This bug is discouraging more than one of us:
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1094661?message_id=11340525#11338998
indeed, we refrained this merge proposal with denizen and others, last month, due to this bug :(

Indeed. I've a couple of label merges outstanding that I've left alone for now, several hundred releases to move.

Danthewhippet
Could it be that digfab is DNU and Colors (7) isn't?

no idea ; actually, DNUed or not, both labels should be empty and unfoundable, IMO.

Danthewhippet
Could it be that digfab is DNU and Colors (7) isn't?

Many DNU'd labels I've seen in the recent months haven't become a draft, like www.takt.eu which still shows >5000 entries (but all >3000 pendings have been cleared, and that's not from votes only...).

Danthewhippet
I've a couple of label merges outstanding that I've left alone for now, several hundred releases to move.

Me too. Hard to do if you go to move one and you've already done it.

Maybe Eloony has taken over and immediately fired all the staff and closed their X s so they can't tell anyone.

I have held back on some LCCN edits too until this is fixed.

This year has been interminable for bugs.

sebfact
Maybe Eloony has taken over and immediately fired all the staff and closed their X s so they can't tell anyone.

me, i feel like discogs contracted a design studio during the last years (since nik has left ?).
frankly, i’ve never seen such an hybrid platform / website for both, pc and phone, before ! maybe it would have been better to develop a able app for phone separately, instead of integrating this one to the website [edit : hence, the bugs], imho.

Diognes_The_Fox
soulvibes88Is a fix in the works Diognes_The_Fox?

Yes.

monthly checkups prevent unsightly buildup

Keep on blank editing boys!

dub_e_72
(a second bug by the way ; this, plus the third which is now displaying the releases twice or more in labels profiles depending how many cat#s were listed in LCCN section, since a few months / years...)

Can't say this is true: again, see https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/label/707470-Son-Rol-Music
This one:
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/label/707470-Son-Rol-Music has only 3 version, but these 3 are displayed 3, even 4 ! times.... But only 1 Cat #.
And the list is endless!

FredBas
And the list is endless!

i can imagine ! look at https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/label/2166277-Bovema-EMI-Studios?sort=year&sort_order=asc in example (the pages of this studio were displaying 5 or 6k
releases only, 2 years ago ; now, they display 18k, for whatever reason...).

surely, discogs devs do know what happens with these similar displaying issues in LCCN
section and they are able to fix those encoded bugs once and for all, soon (i guess) !

[edit : by chance, migration from Bovema / EMI Studios was done in time,
and, none of the releases were duplicated in both labels profiles ; that being said, what
will be about these 21 EMI Uden vinyl pressings which probably need to be corrected,
then ? shall we take the risk to leave 21 dupes in EMI Uden pages to correct those ??]

Still not resolved!

dub_e_72
surely, discogs devs do know what happens with these similar displaying issues in LCCN
section and they are able to fix those encoded bugs once and for all, soon (i guess) !

Guess again!

It's not just releases not moving from label profiles. Now the profiles themselves aren't updating either (at least to me this is new).

Label pages seem frozen in time now.

rdvriese
It's not just releases not moving from label profiles. Now the profiles themselves aren't updating either (at least to me this is new).

Yes, this happened on Saturday morning GMT and is still a live issue. The profile updates are saving but not feeding through to the front page (similar to the original problem that's been happening since May).

rdvriese
It's not just releases not moving from label profiles. Now the profiles themselves aren't updating either

Won't respond to DNU flagging either. And the removed releases from the Label/PAN are still showing.....!
For months now!
Why aren't there any involved Developers/Management/Staff, whatever, responding? Why not explaining this situation? Do they know how to solve this anyway.....? I seriously doubt it!

Good thing we have the status page informing us that label pages are operational.
https://status.discogs.mejorespelis.org/

rdvriese
It's not just releases not moving from label profiles. Now the profiles themselves aren't updating either (at least to me this is new).

Label pages seem frozen in time now.

At least this seems fixed now.

Some better communication wouldn't hurt though.

rdvriese
At least this seems fixed now.

am not sure... look at the label Colors (7).

www.HandleWithCare.de Nothing has changed although about 1000 / 2600 entries have been moved....

The original issue is certainly not fixed. This case that I reported upthread on 13SEP24, is still wrong.
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1084831#11241116

Please, don't pollute this thread with other issues on LCCN pages. Open your own threads instead.

dub_e_72
am not sure... look at the label Colors (7).

Was totally emptied, so seems fine. All profiles I edited show now.

rdvriese
dub_e_72am not sure... look at the label Colors (7).

Was totally emptied, so seems fine. All profiles I edited show now.

I don't know what you see, I don't see it...

F56
I don't know what you see, I don't see it...

To me the edits made to the profile now also show to the front end.

rdvriese
F56I don't know what you see, I don't see it...

To me the edits made to the profile now also show to the front end.

The entries are still displayed under the initial, incorrect label / company...

F56
The entries are still displayed under the initial, incorrect label / company...

I'm not talking about that.

rdvriese
At least this seems fixed now.

IbLeo
The original issue is certainly not fixed.

But I shall no longer "pollute" this thread with other issues. Who'd ever think they might be related anyhow? I wouldn't dare suggest so.

Now, anyone can go focus on their own fucking petty errors!

rdvriese
But I shall no longer "pollute" this thread with other issues. Who'd ever think they might be related anyhow? I wouldn't dare suggest so.

Now, anyone can go focus on their own fucking petty errors!

I apologize if I came across as arrogant. I can assure that was not my attention. It's just that when the same thread talks about different bugs, the conversation easily becomes confused, as demonstrated above, Furthermore, it's hard to declare it "resolved".

This thread is really intended to track the resolution of the SERIOUS and VERY ANNOYING bug cited in the title. We already have at least two other threads that serves as containers for bugs-of-all-kinds on the new LCCN page: Forum Thread #1084831 :)

IbLeo
Furthermore, it's hard to declare it "resolved". This thread is really intended to track the resolution of the SERIOUS and VERY ANNOYING bug cited in the title.

+ 1 Thx!

IbLeo
This thread is really intended to track the resolution of the SERIOUS and VERY ANNOYING bug cited in the title.

I found it equally serious and annoying that label profiles were not updating and it seemed to be an extension of the label discographies not updating (since artists were never affected).

But, with new developments, it may seem that this was in fact yet an additional "feature" - not so much a bug as the result of devs tinkering with the label profiles for some new overcautious interpretation of EU regulations: https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1101087

IbLeo
I apologize if I came across as arrogant. I can assure that was not my attention. It's just that when the same thread talks about different bugs, the conversation easily becomes confused, as demonstrated above, Furthermore, it's hard to declare it "resolved".

OK, thanks. It was never my intention to declare this thread resolved. Just to note that this additional bug was gone.

As s we should try to stick together and not forget who the real adversary is: the corporate types who only see market places in nice things.

FromLondon
37 days and counting..

+1.

72 days, tomorrow... sometimes it can ask a few months before such tiny details were fixed ;
in example : https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1073466 (as a good news... ;o) !

[edit : striked-out last sentence... it was not fixed either, apparently :(]

please, can i ask here the permission to migrate the 4 credits listed as KIF S.A. label, and, to see what will happen, then ?

Hi everyone,

My name is Daniel, and I’m the owner of a label called Caedite Eos.

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/es/label/2124064-Caedite-Eos

I’m reaching out for your help because a has added a release with incorrect information, and now it’s showing under the main label instead of the sublabel.

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/es/release/32220996-Various-Ex-Nihilo-EP

I’ve already made the necessary corrections on the specific release, but the changes don’t seem to take full effect. The release hasn’t completely moved and is still appearing under the wrong label.

Could anyone assist me with this issue?

Thanks so much in advance!

SlugoS
Could anyone assist me with this issue?

There's a bug, so you might have to wait 3-6 months for Discogs to process that edit and move it to the correct label....

this one edited 3 months ago is still on the old label....

discogs.mejorespelis.org/release/8138950-Let-Phil-Tate-Play-For-Your-Dance-Party/history#latest

Same problem is happening with Moon Records (48), so that profile should be empty, but instead it’s showing all of the moved releases.

The bug persists....its the discogs equivalentof a cockroach. A-Z Music Services has been cleared now but all the releases are still showing.

the same about https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1100691?message_id=11397363#11430612
curiously, the label in question has became a draft, now...

www.confliktarts.com is another that's been cleared but still looks populated.

FromLondon
Hard to do if you go to move one and you've already done it.

I've found a way around that issue, tap on the "Submissions pending" link on the profile page. Each one you edit disappears from that list.

dub_e_72
the label in question has became a draft, now...

I've noticed the last couple I've been working on have become drafts as soon as I applied the DNU. I always delete all details prior to applying the DNU (of course I transfer any relevant data first), not sure if it makes a difference to it becoming a draft or not.
Wonder if Diognes_The_Fox has any news yet.

A new wrinkle on this mess: If you change a catalog number, the SUB now shows up with both the new and the old catalog number on the Label page:

see:
RUM BAR Records

dclubok
A new wrinkle on this mess: If you change a catalog number, the SUB now shows up with both the new and the old catalog number on the Label page:

Maybe temporarily, looks cleared now.

FromLondon
Maybe temporarily, looks cleared now.

Not from a desktop. (There are two SUBs with the catalog number RUM 199)

Are you using an app on a phone? Apparently there are separate databases for the two environments.

dclubok
Not from a desktop. (There are two SUBs with the catalog number RUM 199)

I only looked at your last edit changing to caps. You're right, two for 199.

www.pure-music.co.uk is also cleared out but you wouldn't think so to look at it

This is terrible. I just completed a 5-way studio merge and even tho they’re DNU’d & cleared, the old entities still say there are hundreds of subs assigned…and it’s been weeks since they were emptied.

IbLeo
Issue still on-going: I just removed 4 of the 5 releases from All Rights Reserved Studio, but all 5 continue to show up. E.g. Ska Petarda - Dolce Vita.. *sigh*

4 months, still not fixed.

Even after a removal was done over 3 months ago, the release still appears under the incorrect label page.
This is utterly annoying and I wonder why Discogs isn't booting these underachiever programmers and developers out (or, worse, they did and now nobody knows how to fix it...)

dclubok
Apparently there are separate databases for the two environments.

it’s my feeling, too ! have noticed the two environments the day they have launched the ‘new release page’ design (circa 2 years ago). in example, Credits section appears first before LCCN section when you are on mobile phone view, whereas it still displays LCCN first before Credits when you are on a laptop view ; what is detectable when you are using a split view mode (two releases on the same screen) on a tablet like ipad pro ; you are right, it’s probably something which has to do with these undesired duplications.

Danthewhippet
I've noticed the last couple I've been working on have become drafts

before this, i’m not sure i already have ever seen a label or an artist profile to become a draft like we have for the releases, in the past... it looks like to be a new ‘feature’ ; maybe it’s a temporary solution developpers have found to fix the bug in question ? that being said it still doesn’t work, obviously... :-(

all releases moved from Carolyn Records (4) appear on both label profiles. it's getting increasingly difficult and frustrating to perform these functions....

By this point it's probably best to just bite the bullet and reindex the whole f***ing db. Come what may.

Diognes_The_Fox
Yes.

There's NO progress whatsoever.

Diognes_The_Fox Any update on when this will be fixed?

It's being worked on.

Should we accept people repeatedly doing blank edits to (unsuccessfully) clear the phantom releases from the old profiles or should this be actively discouraged?

berothbr
actively discouraged

since it does not appear to be working maybe Diognes_The_Fox might weigh in with a “hey folks let’s stop this blank edit thing thanks”

Yeah, the data at the release level is fine, it's not due to weird glitched out release data. A blank edit is likely to be ineffective.

The issue is involves a service that the artist & label page use.

Diognes_The_Fox
Yeah, the data at the release level is fine, it's not due to weird glitched out release data. A blank edit is likely to be ineffective.
The issue is involves a service that the artist & label page use.

I thought I read the issue is fine = resolved? But it isn't?
E.g. Star Company (2) and many other examples I ran into on a daily bases. Believe it's like this at least for 8+ months ... Is there already a possible fixed resolve date?

He said that the data is fine but the issue is caused by a defective service. Once the service runs smoothly again, it will look "normal" for the s again. He didn't say anything about the issue being resolved.

I know. I meant that for a moment I thought I had just read that it was 'fine' (as in solved) now, because he said earlier yesterday that it was being worked on. (Maybe it was just my hope).
So it was a rhetorical question of exasperation after perhaps half a year, or at least maaaannny months. Question remains ... when will it runs smoothly again? (pff and why does it take soooo looong)?

Probably started 7 months ago as it was discussed here at a merge for Metronome Musik GmbH profile:
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1056013?message_id=11157097#11125694

yeah, around that time.

Nevermind.

Adding another profile with many releases still showing.

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/label/1412786-Walt-Disney-Records-Pixar
This is marked DNU and I separated the companies as suggested, but all releases are still showing under this company profile.

0 submissions pending, but all are still present.

Noticed another layer to this onion:
GZ Media under 00000.

Another new one...

I changed this releases caps for the label. From rob galloway music to Rob Galloway Music, which would normally not be a problem. It created a new label, but neither the old or the new can be found by a search.

The Yalla Yallas - Outsider

2 more cases
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/forum/thread/1109784

Please fix this bug, people. The database is coming unglued.

Now this when trying to edit status on inventory:

Unexpected Application Error!
Cannot read properties of null (reading '0')
TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading '0')
at formatItem (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:1623:70371)
at https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:1623:70806
at Array.map (<anonymous>)
at getDeserializedItemsFromResponse (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:1623:70798)
at InventoryGrid (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:1623:73653)
at Xh (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:38:21799)
at dj (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:40:3497)
at Wk (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:40:49566)
at Vk (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:40:43955)
at Uk (https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/marketplace/inventory/assets/index-e2d417b7.js:40:43878)

Inventory can now not be accessed at all. Please help.

I can get to mine no problem, although I'm still on the old system, I think many have moved to the new system.

https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/artist/1255525-Steel-Mill
versus
https://discogs.mejorespelis.org/master/212046-Steel-Mill-Green-Eyed-God

Green Eyed God LP: And one of the only two showing is a draft!
Where are the other 19? Last edit to the master was 5 months ago.

Diognes_The_Fox
The issue is involves a service that the artist & label page use.

Any updates? Is a fix close?? It's been months and months.

It is actively being worked on. It is a turning out to be very difficult problem to crack.